Friday, May 11, 2007

The Diamond Ring

Once upon a time, there was a Man and a Woman.

The Man loved the Woman very much, and she loved him.

The Man and Woman planned a life together, and as they were both educated, well-off people, their families were very happy for them.

The Man and Woman got married.

Some time went by, and the Man, hoping to show the Woman just how much he loved her, gave her a beautiful diamond ring.

The Woman was overjoyed. She loved the diamond ring.

A couple of years went by, and the Man thought once again of how much he loved the Woman, and so he gave her a pair of beautiful diamond earrings to go with the diamond ring. The Woman loved these, too, and they went very well with the diamond ring.

The Woman wore the diamond ring and the earrings everywhere she could. She couldn't bear to be without them, and the Man indulged her in this. After all, everyone admired them when they were all together: The Woman, the Man, the diamond ring, and the diamond earrings.

The Woman and the Man decided to take a holiday, and they decided to bring the diamond ring and diamond earrings along with them. The place where they chose to vacation wasn't exactly the sort of place for wearing a diamond ring and diamond earrings, but once again, the Woman and Man couldn't bear to be parted from them. And after all, other people wore their jewelry there; why shouldn't they?

Once they got to their holiday destination, they found that there were some places they wanted to go in which it would be inconvenient to wear a diamond ring and diamond earrings.

They wondered what to do.

The Man said to the Woman, or perhaps the Woman said to the Man, "I think we should leave the diamond ring and diamond earrings in the hotel safe. It's said to be very secure."

"I don't know; you never can tell just how secure those things are. What about that service the hotel offers, where someone would come here and guard the diamond ring and diamond earrings while we are out?" the Woman said to the Man, or maybe the Man said to the Woman.

The Man said to the Woman, or perhaps the Woman said to the Man, "Oh no, I'm sure that would be worse; you never can tell about people these days, and how do I know what the guard would be doing while we aren't watching? You know I can't bear to let the diamond ring and diamond earrings out of my sight!"

"You may have a point there. You do hear all sorts of things nowadays. And those guards.... They're so expensive," the Woman said to the Man, or maybe the Man said to the Woman.

The Man said to the Woman, or perhaps the Woman said to the Man, "Oh dear me, yes. You know, I'm sure the diamond ring and earrings will be ever so safe here. It's really a lovely place, and I'll put them safely away in a drawer. We won't be that far away, and one of us can run back every few minutes to check on the diamond ring and the diamond earrings."

And so that is what they did. They put the diamond ring and diamond earrings in a drawer, forgetting that they had previously said they could not bear to have the diamond ring and diamond earrings out of their sight.

The Man and the Woman went out the door of their hotel room, which had a notice on it saying "DO NOT LEAVE VALUABLES IN HOTEL ROOM."

One or the other of them came back to check on the diamond ring a diamond earrings a few times, and everything was fine. The diamond ring and diamond earrings were safe in their drawer.

Each time they went in or out of their hotel room, the Man and the Woman passed the sign that said "DO NOT LEAVE VALUABLES IN HOTEL ROOM."

The Man and the Woman came back once again to check on the diamond ring and the diamond earrings, to make sure they were safe in their drawer.

The diamond ring was not there.

The Man and the Woman looked everywhere, but the diamond ring was well and truly gone.

The Man and the Woman notified the police.

Many people were sympathetic. They knew how they would feel if a diamond ring of theirs had gone missing.

Some other people were not so understanding.

These unsympathetic people could not believe that it had never occurred to the Man or the Woman that someone else may have wanted a diamond ring, and so took theirs, as it is generally agreed that diamond rings are a very valuable commodity, and not the sort of thing that one would leave in a hotel room.

These cynical people found it hard to believe that that the Woman and Man could act so irresponsibly if they had valued the diamond ring as much as they professed. Some even went so far as to put forth the opinion that maybe the Man and the Woman shouldn't have the diamond earrings, considering the care, or lack of, that they had shown with the diamond ring.

The Man and the Woman were shocked, and protested heartily, and most of their protestations began with "I didn't think...."

Truer words have never been spoken. "I didn't think __"

"I didn't think something like this could happen here. I didn't think that something like this could happen to us. I didn't think that notice on the door, the one that said "DO NOT LEAVE VALUABLES IN HOTEL ROOM" applied in our situation."

But the Man and the Woman have to do a lot of thinking, now.

Now the Man and Woman have to think about what someone has done to their beautiful diamond ring after it was stolen. They have to think about how gold can be melted down, and diamonds can be sold, and how they may one day get their diamond ring back in an unrecognizable shape or form, or only parts of it, and then the Man and Woman will have to take the word of the police that it actually is their diamond ring.

Years may go by, and the Woman may never know what has happened to her diamond ring, all because she and the Man didn't bother thinking things through.


And maybe the Man says to the Woman, "Don't worry. I can give you another diamond ring."


Fat Sparrow

71 comments:

canadian sadie said...

The man's ability to give away diamond rings should be taken away. She doesn't deserve to have one if she can't keep it safe.

What a wonderful analogy. What a sinful shame that you had to write it.

Old Knudsen said...

Its a fucking shame alright here was my take on it.
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Troika said...

What a crass analogy.

Who is at fault here? The parents or the fucking paedos? No mention of the people who actually steal things?

Don't give me this fucking 'I'm a holier than thou mother' shit.

There must be millions of parents who have left their kids 50 yards away in a hotel room when they went for dinner. You're implying here that the parents of Madeleine were not only unloving and uncaring but also stupid. I expect they love that girl just as much as you love your kids, and are just as good parents and are just as intelligent.

Those fuckers would have taken the kid or a kid no matter what. How about you direct some anger at the perpetrators of this crime who you seem to show no anger at, and havn't even mentioned.

Troika said...

GOD I'M FUCKING ANGRY. I'M GONNA GO AND KILL A FUCKING BUM.

paddy said...

We plead for our happiness in life but our security means more to us.
Our real selves are kept prisoner inside while we live the pretence outwards.
"Time to rock and roll."
Y;-) Sincerely Paddy

ellie said...

Let's hope that someone finds the diamond and returns it to it's rightful owners. God bless her

Old Knudsen said...

There must be millions of parents who have left their kids 50 yards away in a hotel room when they went for dinner.

There are millions of bad parents who leave toddlers alone while they go out and have fun, they weren't close enough to hear a bad dream never mind a pedo.

You can't even see the apartment from the restaurant, a hard lesson to learn. Death penalty for pedos all round I say.

canadian sadie said...

I question your claim that these people are 'good parents' and are not 'stupid'. Good parents don't leave babies alone in an hotel room in a foreign country. Stupid ones do.

Just because a large number of people have done it without incident, does NOT make it the correct course of action.

Troika said...
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iLL Man said...

What would I have done? Easiest question in the world that, we all know the answer after the fact. I would maybe have taken the kids with me or left them in the creche. So what? Don't you think these parents aren't spending every waking hour (and a fair few sleeping ones) beating themselves up over this? They were lulled into a sense of security in the complex that led them to feel like they were leaving their kids somewhere safe. Glib analogies won't get the kid back. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like the Portugese Police will either.

Yes, I know, the last one was a cheap shot and I don't really mean it..........

Troika said...

Knudsen, there are kids taken every year from under the noses of their parents. Parents can limit the chances of this happening I agree, but that girl or another girl would have been taken whatever. Unless kids were chained to their parents, of course.

Canadian Sadie - they aren't stupid you stupid fuck. Your crass post on this topic as well has not mentioned AT ALL that the people who did took that child could have any fault. All you can do is blame the parents. Go and find a quiet corner, sit down and have a quiet word with yourself and then go and fuck yourself you miserable cunt.

Troika said...

Oh, and knudsen - if I condoned the death penalty I would be with you on that one. However, castration and buried in a box underground with enough air and food to last 80 years will do.

Sam, Problem-Child-Bride said...

It's her birthday today. She turns 4

savannah said...

good writing on a very sad situation

Anonymous said...

I think this post is in really poor taste, and couching the story in a tale of diamond rings does not disguise the huge, and quite nasty, judgement call you are making.

Yes, the parents could have prevented the very particular circumstances of the kidnapping; but what if the person had posed as a babysitter for the complex? What if the person had just opened the window in the middle of the night, instead of the early evening? What if it was a priest/teacher/relative? Would you still be so judgemental? My point, which I think an earlier poster made, is that no-one can guard against 100% of the ills that might befall their children, 100% of the time. Yes, these parents made a bad mistake; but who is to say that the same thing wouldn't have happened a few hours later, or while a parent was in the bathroom?

Really, this post is downright nasty, and screamingly judgemental.

Anonymous said...

And I hadn't even noticed these properly:

"... and how they may one day get their diamond ring back in an unrecognizable shape or form, or only parts of it ...".
- how nasty and gratuitous

"... all because she and the Man didn't bother thinking things through."
- hardly ALL because they didn't think things though. The small matter of another person who snatched the child does have SOMETHING to do with it.

"And maybe the Man says to the Woman, "Don't worry. I can give you another diamond ring.""
- I can try, to some degree, to see your point on other aspects of this silly "diamond" story. But the above comment is appalling. You can have no basis for saying this; other than your fertile imagination and desire to judge. You have truly descended into tabloid journalism with this comment. It is pure nasty and unwarranted speculation on your part. Why don't you leave these poor people in peace, and stamp all over someone else's shattered life.

Old Knudsen said...

Yeah fat Sparrow, what Anonymous said, however these poor people don't want to be left in peace as if Madeleine drops out of the news and we stop talking about her then she no longer exists, its funny how many people will take stupid iresponsible chances with their children. I have a few kids myself and never misplaced one of them. Protestant parenting.

Orfhlaith said...

Fat Sparrow - Hi, liked your post, surprised at ANON's comment. No matter what way you cushion it, those parents left 3 very small children home alone. I have two kids (older now, 20 and 13) and I was a single parent with my oldest for 3 years and have been a single parent for the last 5 with my youngest. I had no money, no social life and I NEVER would have dreamed of leaving either of them home/ in a hotel room alone! Just because many people do, it doesn't make it right. Children are vulnerable and look to their parents for protection. Who was there to protect that child that night? Yes, we make mistakes, but we don't have to make stupid ones.

Anonymous said...

Oh come on - who can say that their kids are 100% secure all of the time? What if you have a bath, and your 4 year old gets up and goes out into the back garden, and you realise this and have a hernia? Should this "diamond", or your "earrings" be taken away? Or should you keep your "diamond" because it was only the back ? What if they ran out the front? What if someone with a white van was there? What if, instead of a bath, you ran next door for 5 mins? What if you meant to get the window lock fixed, but someone broke in while you were in the bath? The hysterical way this post is written, removal of other children and enforced sterilisation is the only answer.

My point is that no-one is perfect - EVERYONE is guilty of "I'll just pop into the shop / in next door / upstairs / make a quick call" - and thinking "It'll be fine"; which mostly it is: just not on this occasion for this family. Enough of the holier-than-though hysterical trash magazine stuff: can anyone honestly say that they've never ever had the "I'll be back in two mins" thought? Yes, these parents carried that thought too far; but this hardly makes them ogres, muchless deserving of your vile and utterly unfeeling comment, that a replacement child could be had.

Manuel said...

Fat Sparrow I love your blog, but iam with Troika on this one. And maybe now aint really the time to condemn the parents with the wee one still missing.

lynn said...

Anon: What if, what if? We're not talking hypothetical here, that's a time-wasting get-out. Fact is, they left the children alone because they didn't want to shell out for a babysitter or take them with them or eat at home, like all good parents do. What they did was selfish and illegal. Those are the facts, which i suggest you stick to when giving an opinion.

Troika said...

Lynn and that idiot with the stupid name - WE KNOW THEY WERE LEFT ALONE. WE CAN READ THE FUCKING PAPERS AND WATCH THE NEWS. STOP TELLING US. That girl or another girl would have been snatched, whatever. Perhaps whilst her Mum brushed her teeth in the bathroom. The issue isn't parenting, the issue is the people who go around snatching kids for organised paedo gangs. For fuck's sake.

That's me done.

gaijin girl said...

Lovely story, Fat Sparrow. This is a horrible situation for everyone concerned. Yes, I generally enjoy stating the obvious.
With the benefit of hindsight, the public now appears to be on a witch hunt, apparently led by Lynn who is ever-ready to cast the first stone. If only I could be so sure that I am above reproach and can sit in judgment of the lesser human beings.
I tend to assess situations by people's intentions. The parents obviously misjudged the safety of their environment (we can say in hindsight), but I am sure their intention was not for harm to befall their child. The intentions, however, of the kidnappers, were to kidnap a child, which makes them criminals (and arseholes) and they should be dealt with as such.

I hope the little one returns safe and sound, and that they catch these feckers.

lynn said...

It's not a witch hunt at all Gaijin Girl. I've no wish to add to their misery but at the same time, the fault cannot be ignored and i am certainly not alone in these thoughts. I, like anyone, am not perfect by any means but can safely say i am above reproach in this area, i would never have dreamt of leaving young children, not even for five minutes. It's not only that you expect abductors to come in through the window but young children can wake choking, with a bad dream, upset tummy, there could have been a fire, anything. My point is that if this behaviour is excused or ignored, then others - perhaps new parents - may think it acceptable and nothing will be improved, more children will be hurt.

lynn said...

...and of course, the kidnappers ARE criminals, that's a no-brainer and they should be dealt with in the severest way. I didn't even think that needed to be said but obviously it did.

Fat Sparrow said...

Canadian Sadie -- "What a wonderful analogy. What a sinful shame that you had to write it."

Thank you (going by your own blog post, you're one of the few people who seem to have gotten the point of my allegory, which is simply this: What you value, you take care of), and yes it is.

Old Knudsen -- Exactly.

Troika -- It's not an analogy, it's an allegory. It has a story and a moral. And the reason I wrote an allegory, instead of one of my usual rants, was to attempt to get people to think (although apparently I was asking too much of some people), and to examine their own motives for having sympathy for the parents. If it had been a diamond ring instead of a little girl that had gone missing, to due someone's negligence, you would not be feeling sorry for them. You would consider them careless fuckwits, and rightly so. Because it is a pretty little girl who has gone missing, instead of a diamond ring, the media is able to pull at the heartstrings of even heartless bastards such as yourself. Would you be feeling sorry for the parents if they were a couple of chavs, who nipped down to KFC? What if the parent who left the kids was Britney Spears? Would you have the same amount of sympathy? Again, in plain English, the story was written as an allegory to get people to examine their own hypocritical reactions. Stand up and be proud, Troika. You were my muse.

And I said in my story that the parents loved the child. My point is that they did not value her. You look after things you value.

Also there was no reason to mention whoever took her. Is there anyone in their right mind who says that taking kids is not bad? It's pretty much a given.

I also seriously doubt that there are "millions of parents who have left their kids 50 yards away in a hotel room when they went for dinner." Here in California, that's called Child Neglect, and we prosecute it, whether the kids are okay or not.

Oh, and you're probably safe killing that bum. As long as it's not a cute, young, white one, you shouldn't get any media attention.

Paddy -- I would say the parents plead for her security, but their happiness meant more to them.

Ellie -- I believe it's safe to say that is the one thing all the commenters agree on.

Old Knudsen -- Yep.

Canadian Sadie -- I am in complete agreement.

Ill Man -- "So what? Don't you think these parents aren't spending every waking hour (and a fair few sleeping ones) beating themselves up over this?"

And if they had put in a bit of forethought, just like the rest of us do, they wouldn't have to be. And no, I don't think they've suffered enough. I think they should be prosecuted.

Troika -- Again, you're missing the point. Of course whoever took Madeleine is responsible, but the parents could have done more, and reasonably so, to prevent it. If a car's about to hit you and a blind person doesn't warn you, you don't blame them, but if a seeing person doesn't warn you, well....

Sam -- I know. Not a very good birthday, I'm afraid.

Savannah -- Thank you.

Anonym Ass -- "couching the story in a tale of diamond rings does not disguise the huge, and quite nasty, judgement call you are making"

And yet it's still better than the judgement call the McCann's made. Sad, isn't it?

"what if the person had posed as a babysitter for the complex? What if the person had just opened the window in the middle of the night, instead of the early evening? What if it was a priest/teacher/relative? Would you still be so judgemental?"

At least the parents would have the comfort of knowing that they had done all they could, and if it were my child, I know that would be some comfort to me, to know that I would not have to blame myself. There are plenty of parents of missing kids that I feel a high degree of sympathy for; the Groene family in Idaho come immediately to mind, along with Polly Klaas's parents, and Samantha Runnion's mom. The McCann's, unfortunately, rank right up there with people who leave babies in cars to die in 100 degree weather, because they forgot about them, or parents who back over their own kids in their driveways. Tragic, but completely preventable.

"no-one can guard against 100% of the ills that might befall their children, 100% of the time."

Completely true. As a parent, you can do everything right, and your kid can turn out great, and they can win a scholarship and go to college at Virginia Tech and get killed by a madman.

"Yes, these parents made a bad mistake; but who is to say that the same thing wouldn't have happened a few hours later, or while a parent was in the bathroom?"

If the mistake had only affected them, then that's fine, but it's the little girl who is paying for it. There is no way those parents are suffering anywhere near as much as that little girl is. I have a 3-year-old myself, and a 3-year-olds trust in their parents is absolute. The McCann's have betrayed that trust, and they can never, ever explain it away to their little girl to make it all better. It's not like accidentally bumping your child, or stepping on their toe. The way those parents have fucked up is irreparable. As for the rest of it, see my previous comments about having peace of mind in knowing that you as a parent did everything that you reasonably could.

"Really, this post is downright nasty, and screamingly judgemental."

No one comes here to read sweetness and light, and very few get out alive. You can always get while the getting's good.

And "nasty and gratuitous.... tabloid journalism"? I hardly think so, and veiled ad hominem attacks won't make it true, and neither will it be true if you say it in a high-pitched voice. What is true is that I am cursed with an overactive imagination. It is because of my overactive imagination that my kids are safe; I can picture all the horrible things that could happen to them if I left them alone. If only the McCann's would have done the same.

Not that you can tell, because officially I have neither heart nor soul (or rhythm, but that's another story), but I cried when I wrote the part about "how gold can be melted down," etc. I tear up even now when I think about it. I think about 5-year-old Samantha Runnion, a local girl who went missing, and how they found her body, and the horrible things that had been done to her. I wrote the story in allegory format because it's easier to talk about those things when it's only a diamond ring.

You are being hypocritical. Who are you, to judge me, when you did not know my motives? Why is it okay for you to judge me, but not okay for me to judge the McCann's? We're all of us judgemental, and make judgement calls every day of our lives. It's just that some of us admit it, and try not to be hypocritical about it.

As for another diamond ring.... It seems that people have two reactions to losing a child; they either divorce, or have another kid. I'll bet good money the McCann's have another one. I'm cynical that way.

"Why don't you leave these poor people in peace"

It's not like I mailed them a letter, or pissed on their grave. Shit, there's not even a link or a name in my story to get Googled. Save your self-righteousness to cool your porridge.

"and stamp all over someone else's shattered life."

Tune in next week.

Old Knudsen -- Exactly.

Orfhlaith -- Thank you. I agree with everything you said.

Anonym Ass -- See my above comments.

"muchless deserving of your vile and utterly unfeeling comment, that a replacement child could be had."

Learn to read: I never said "replacement," I said "another." Again, I'll bet they have another kid. Let's hope they take better care of it.

Manuel -- Thanks, I love your blog too.

"maybe now aint really the time to condemn the parents with the wee one still missing."

Should I have waited until after they've found her body? Would that have been more tactful? Would it have changed the fact of negligence on the part of the parents?

Lynn -- Hell must have frozen over, because here's me agreeing with you.

Troika -- "WE KNOW THEY WERE LEFT ALONE. WE CAN READ THE FUCKING PAPERS AND WATCH THE NEWS. STOP TELLING US."

Funny, that's the sentiment I had: WE KNOW PEDOS/KIDNAPPERS ARE BAD. WE CAN FIGURE THIS OUT FOR OURSELVES. STOP TELLING US.

GG -- In my experience it just doesn't do to judge people by their intentions, unfortunately, and of course there's the famous quote in which the road to hell is paved with good intentions. I had a boyfriend who constantly told me he loved me, bought me flowers and jewelry and clothes and took my out to dinner, and generally treated me like a princess. Of course, he was cheating on me constantly, something he would have considered to be beside the point. I'm sure he never intended me to find out, and he never intended for me to be hurt. It's much easier to go by what people's actions are. By their actions, the McCann's did wrong. They know they did, or at least I can hope that they know. My ex-boyfriend never learned, and really couldn't figure out what he had done wrong.

Lynn -- "It's not only that you expect abductors to come in through the window but young children can wake choking, with a bad dream, upset tummy, there could have been a fire, anything. My point is that if this behaviour is excused or ignored, then others - perhaps new parents - may think it acceptable and nothing will be improved, more children will be hurt."

Exactly. Sadly enough, it's not the first time this sort of thing had happened, nor will it be the last. As I've said before, here in California, we have laws against this sort of thing, and the parents would be prosecuted. And having a law will not stop stupid people from doing stupid things. They will still do them, it's just that with a law in place, they can be prosecuted.

lynn said...

Tomorrow the parents are due in court, but then so are the friends and family. With the legal secrecy, no-one actually knows why; could be to swear testimony as is the case in some countries or could be that they may be prosecuted for abandonment.

The parents have flown out two top, highly paid lawyers from the UK to assist them, in any case. Wonder if they're re-evaluating the cost of that babysitting service now?

Troika said...

Sparrow, it is also an analogy (of a diamond ring and a child). And like I said, a crass one.

I don't believe that those parents aren't doing everything possible to get their daughter back (as Lynn implied), and I don't think they are any worse parents than anyone commenting on this.

I also know for a fact that I'm always right. Ergo, you're all wrong.

lynn said...

I didn't imply, i described the facts. The parents have spent much time wandering from the apartment to the church and to a private villa where they 'took time out away from the press'. Time they could have more usefully spent trudging through fields, looking at empty holiday homes, disused buildings, driving through the countryside, anything. Anything is better than sitting by a pool or in church. God would still listen, if that's what they believe, wherever they are. Therefore, just to make clear, no i don't think they are doing everything possible to get their daughter back. Other people are.

Troika said...

You're a fucking simple spastic Lynn, aren't you? In fact you're so simple, there's just no point in even trying to deal with you.

They are PROBABLY intelligent enough to know that looking in a drain that has been looked in a hundred times isn't going to do anything. What they are doing is a fucking good job at keeping this in the media. They have also not sat by a pool relaxing at all - you've just made that up. Poor form for a journo as you should know. Well, maybe you shouldn't because you're a fucking shit one.

lynn said...

I'm afraid you'd have to blame Sky News for that one, then. I'm merely repeating what is in the public domain through news reports and visually obvious from the tv coverage following them. I am not personally on this case, just observing the images put before us, which show them retreating to the villa and going to church, exactly as i have described. I wish i was talented enough to transport my made-up images to people such as Sky News. More so to have them accepted. Sadly i am not. Still, i am sure you are secure in the knowledge that your sophisticated style of argument convinces all and sundry here.

lynn said...

In fact, just to prove i don't make things up, at this moment BBC News 24 are filming the parents on the beach saying (not my words) that they are "attempting to have a semblance of normality". If this was indeed to keep cameras on them and keep the story in the public eye, which is i agree of high importance, would it not be better for us to see the parents searching, desperately trying everything, travelling around, looking, sticking posters up, asking people?

Anonymous said...

Sky News pictures, showing them going from a church into a villa, with the same constant loop of news, repeated every 20 mins - this constitutes the parents not doing enough?! And this ISN'T a witch hunt?

lynn said...

No of course it isn't. I know how wretched they must be feeling, I've no wish to add to that, except than to have it recognised that it was wrong - for all parents as i said before - and for the safety of future children. They have committed a crime. How would it be if we ignored all crimes because we feel sorry for the criminal?

I'm sure that if the parents had been out searching themselves it would have been a golden opportunity - and much more newsworthy than the church trips - to any of the TV companies there, so they would have certainly shown that. The parents can't move without the world's press following them so it's very unlikely they'd have missed it. It has just been reported that before the beach visit right now, they have spent the day with their lawyers.

First Nations said...

got any children of your own, anon?

i am a parent.

you do not leave small children unattended.
anywhere.

UNSUPERVISED.

that this was done in a hotel IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY simply boggles the mind. it was stupid, it was negligent. period.


jesus; i just came to wish you a happy mothers day. and now that i come to think of it, what a great mothers day post, fatty S!

Orfhlaith said...

Troika said -Lynn and that idiot with the stupid name - WE KNOW THEY WERE LEFT ALONE. WE CAN READ THE FUCKING PAPERS AND WATCH THE NEWS. STOP TELLING US.

Troika, it's the idiot with the stupid name, : ) . Feeling a little judgemental were we? Not sure why you have to be so insulting. People have an opinion and they state it, it doesn't have to be done with such vitriol! As you said, yes, we all know the children were left alone, and yes, we cannot watch our children 24 hours a day, but we can mitigate circumstances in which our children might be put in danger. In other words, we think things through and make informed, intelligent decisions. One of the other realities of life is, yes, there are paedophiles out there and they are damn good at finding opportunities for getting children alone and gaining their trust. But if I leave my children alone and vulnerable, I am just making it a little too easy for those that prey on children. The obvious choice is to then not leave my children alone.

Eddie Waring said...

A hot topic.

Life is full of choices people.

These people made a poor one. 'Poor' is probably the wrong word. If they were so foolish as to have made such a 'poor' choice while on holiday in a foreign country, what kind of choices do they make when in the safety of their own home?

All you people who are defending the parents seem to be doing so because they must feel just terrible about all this. They fucking well should feel terrible. They fucked up and although nobody deserves to have their kid abducted. There is a price to be paid here for their negligence. It's just so very sad that it is so high. There are circumstances you can control and circumstances you can't. They had complete control up to the point where they chose to abandon their kids alone in a hotel room. Colour it any way you want to "anonymous" but they are responsible for this and should face the consequences of their mistake. That doesn't mean that the sick bastards that took her are any less responsible, sure they might have gone and taken another kid or they might have taken the same kid at a another time when the parents were sleeping . That however is making assumptions, we don't know. What we do know is that good, responsible parents do not go out to dinner leaving a 3 year old kid alone.

I hope they find her safe and that her parents learn their lesson.

Let's Kill Saturday Night said...

It is possible to disagree with someone without resorting to name-calling. When someone calls someone else a "fucking simple spastic", it's kind of hard to take their point seriously. It's the real stupid people who can't argue without insults.

Anonymous said...

I have 3 kids. I like to think that I parent them as well as I can; but I acknowledge that I can't be perfect. I know that I've had hour long baths while they've been in bed (me being the only adult in the house). I've had coffee - and, dare I say it, food and wine - on the balcony with friends, while they slept. I've had dinner on a neighbour's balcony whilst both our kids slept. You don't expect a paedophile to watch and take advantage of this. These parents - in my opinion - moved slightly too far away for dinner; but it was a family resort. So they were too trusting, and something unspeakably bad happened. They are not monsters. Can any of the condemers really say that they've never had coffee whilst their kids slept? What if a peado got into their kids room via a crappy lock? Is your house 100% secure? Do we really want to go down that road of holding kids in a totally security area? I just can't understand the vitriol towards those poor parents. Imagine if it was you: your kids run around the supermarket; but because they're 2 aisles away, you deserve castigation, removal of your other kids, and sterilisation? I really don't think so.

Eddie Waring said...

My kid doesn't run around the supermarket, she stays right next to me. I would never go and have dinner on a neighbours balcony leaving the kid home alone. I have been quite drunk, if the wife was sober or vice versa while our daughter was asleep. I am mindful to always make good choices wherever my daughters safety is concerned. You cannot be too careful. (Father O'Reilly seemed like such a nice priest I would never have thought he would have molested all those kids.)
Like I said some things you can control and some things you can't. They relinquished control when they should not have done because they are selfish, ignorant twats and bad parents. Good parents just do not do that. They were more concerned with going out having a good time than they were for the safety of their children. You cannot deny it. The end result proves it. Maybe they aren't monsters but they are foolish and irresponsible. You can throw up any random scenario you want to try and compare but nothing does. And if you are letting your kids run around the supermarket out of sight you might want to consider not doing because a) you just never know and b) it annoys the fuck out of shoppers (and responsible parents) like me.

Troika said...

Lynn - there's another reason why they are on the beach? Can you guess what it is? Can you?

Why would they walk on a beach in front of the world's media? To relax and kick and ball about?

Can you guess what other reason they may have to walk along a beach, hand-in-hand in front of the world's media?

Eddie Waring said...

Troika said:
Can you guess what other reason they may have to walk along a beach, hand-in-hand in front of the world's media?

To reflect upon what shite parents they have been and if only they hadn't been so fuckin selfish as to have left their kids alone that night then maybe they would not be walking on the beach reflecting upon what shite parents they been?

Just a guess....

Conortje said...

Your post is exactly what I was thinking.

lynn said...

Eddie Waring you said every single thing in my mind. Absolutely.

Troika: No, since you ask, for the life of me i can't. What a waste of time. I know you will say to get in front of the media. Tell the parents to go searching, asking people, actually DOING something, be filmed doing that and I might spend a minute thinking about what they're doing.

Old Knudsen said...

Fucker, cunt, spastic, turd sorry just getting warmed up.

Do ya remember in Home Alone the parents are on a plane and say "wheres Kevin?" I hope the other two kids were on the beach with them or having someone looking after them.

They're on holiday for fucks sake people let them enjoy what they can of it.

Sarcasm, just to explain it to you less swifter types.

Looking at the map again and actually measuring it the distance was more like 100 metres from restaurant to apartment (not in a straight line) I wonder just how many times they actually checked on their 3 children all under the age of 4. Anyone who thinks they are safe anywhere and think some big magical hand will protect their kids when they can't be arsed to are morons, I had a commenter from Portugal say how safe Portugal was, would she say that if her kid was snatched?

It was probably Africans or satanists that took her anyway.

lynn said...

lol Old K i enjoyed your warming up.

Yes, it's ridiculous to imagine they would be safe, even from waking up choking which actually young children do quite a lot, needing a simple cuddle. I can also recall more times than i care to, my sons suddenly developing an upset tummy and by the time i was in their bedroom and they were on the edge of the bed it was all over the floor! Just imagine if I hadn't been there. How frightening for a young child and how unfair to put them through that. This, of course, being the very least serious possibility. No care given at all by those parents i'm afraid.
They're searching that new villa now with a new suspect being questioned; let's hope.

Kav said...

FS, I'm late to this party after dossing around for a week, but I could not agree more with the general sentiment. The parents were fucking stupid; intelligent they may be, but everyone, no matter how smart, is stupid sometimes. Most of us try not to be fucking stupid where the lives of our kids are concerned. I mentioned it a bit today - parenting's just risk management. You don't boil the kettle and then put it in the playpen - you keep it on a high shelf with the cord well out of the reach of young arms.

People can dress it up how they want, but it's complete bullshit to say that the kid would have been snatched even if the parents were there to look after her.

fatmammycat said...

Fucking right on!

Medbh said...

Fat Sparrow, I was saddened to see you get so much anger and abuse over your timely allegory. You demonstrate how crucial stories are to our understanding of events and lay emphasis on what the parents did to bring about the tragic event.
I don't have kids, but even I know you don't leave them unsupervised in a hotel room.
Excellent post!

Mairéad said...

Powerful post! The most thought-provoking part for me was when you wrote about them not thinking, and that now they have lots of time to think.... Quite.

Is it just me? said...

"That girl or another girl would have been snatched, whatever. Perhaps whilst her Mum brushed her teeth in the bathroom. The issue isn't parenting, the issue is the people who go around snatching kids for organised paedo gangs"

No the issue here (perfectly put by fat Sparrow) is that people who snatch children would find it hard if the children inquestion have been left alone.I have two boys and would NEVER for ANY reason leave them alone in my own home never mind a hotel room in a foreign country.Any thing could happen and in this case it obviously did.I feel so sorry for those [parents because a hard lesson learned and their little girl has been lost to them as a result.

Fat Sparrow said...

Troika and Lynn -- Get a room. Or a blog. Whatever.

It doesn't matter what the parents are doing right now. That's like talking about what color you want to paint your house, after your house has burnt down. And it's far too late for them to be keeping up appearances.

FN -- Exactly. Happy Mother's Day to you, too!

Orfhlaith -- Once again, I agree.

Eddie -- "If they were so foolish as to have made such a 'poor' choice while on holiday in a foreign country, what kind of choices do they make when in the safety of their own home?"

Shit, I didn't even think about that. Good point.

LKSN -- I'd agree, but I have to go cuss out and insult people.

Anonym Ass -- It's called a Baby Monitor. Many stores carry them. Try one.

Eddie -- "And if you are letting your kids run around the supermarket out of sight"

You shop at Superior, too?

Troika and Lynn -- Have you not gotten a room yet?

Eddie -- Haven't seen the footage of them walking on the beach, but it sounds like a Cialis commercial to me.

Conortje -- Glad to know I'm not the only one.

Old Knudsen -- I heard those Satanists and Africans are responsible for global warming, too.

Kav -- Yep, exactly. And while it's not entirely impossible that she would have been taken even if the parents were there (Google for Shasta and Dylan Groene, in Idaho, or Joseph Edward Duncan III), there's no reason to make it easy for kidnappers. I mean, there's a chance your car will get stolen even with the doors locked and the car alarm set, but that doesn't stop you from locking the doors and setting the alarm, does it?

FMC, Medbh, and Mairead -- Thank you.

IIJM -- I agree.

Sassy Sundry said...

What idiotic parents. Makes me believe in having a test before people are allowed to reproduce.

Fumier said...

What a finely crafted post, FS. I may have to create a special category in this year's "fumies" especially for it.

Anonymous said...

People make mistakes. All the time everyday. Speculation about what kind of parents these people are is utterly useless and boring and how anyone feels qualified to make comments about it without knowing any facts is down right silly. For all anyone knows they could have been the best most attentive parents ever to have graced this earth and made one silly decision to leave the kids down the road asleep while making frequent checks on them. The reason blogging is not considered journalism by any self respecting person is because it is a form of diary keeping and for recording peoples personal opinions. Its not balanced reporting on a situation. I wish people would remember that more often. If this piece is meant to be anything other than a personal refelection on a current situation that it does stink of tabloid, there is no way that a biast emotive piece of work would ever make it anywhere further that a one in a million blog.
As for trying to make people think.... I think you need to try a little harder.

Andy said...

The parents made a mistake, one that will haunt them every minute of the rest of their lives. Enough said. You people banging on about it is merely pointing out the obvious and serves no real purpose. As someone said, it may have been the one time in their lives they made such a mistake. FS, your last line about getting a new diamond ring is disgraceful, a really low, cheap nasty shot. You oughta be ashamed of yourself.

Lynn - "The parents have spent much time wandering from the apartment to the church and to a private villa where they 'took time out away from the press'. Time they could have more usefully spent trudging through fields, looking at empty holiday homes, disused buildings, driving through the countryside, anything."

Isn't that what the police are for? Why not let trained detectives with local knowledge search for her? Isn't it clear they are trying to keep the attention of the media on this case? Isn't that the best thing they can do at the moment? And if they wanna walk on the beach, big deal. I can imagine sitting in the same room all day would get pretty stifling and cabin fever would set in quick. Why shouldn't they have a moment to themselves, maybe they just wanted to talk in private.

Lynn also says "I know how wretched they must be feeling"
- do you really Lynn? Have you been there?

Yes, they screwed up. There may be a time for condemnation but that time is not now. So sleep snugly and smugly all you 100% perfect "I'm so great and I never made a mistake in my life" preachers out there. They made a mistake and are paying a heavy price, heavier than anyone should ever have to pay. Paedo's are out there people, its a fact of life. They didn't do everything they could to limit the chances of their child being sntached but anyone who says they can offer 100% protection 100% of the time is talking nonsense. A paedo could snatch a child when you are asleep, it could be their teacher, priest, uncle, aunt, trusted family friend. Wrapping your child in cotton wool 100% of the time is the opposite extreme of neglect and most people fall somewhere in between, making sensible choices. Life is dangerous and no-one can offer total protection, short of hiring Jack Bauer as a nanny.

lynn said...

"A paedo could snatch a child when you are asleep, it could be their teacher, priest, uncle, aunt, trusted family friend" - Yes but it didn't happen that way. Madeleine had a right to expect her parents to protect her in the best way possible. They let her down. It's her you should be thinking of now, alone and frightened, not how the parents are coping.

Andy said...

OK, I'm gonna prop the matchsticks in the eyes after reading your post and go through this again v...e..r..y...s..l..o..w..l...y...

I was referring to the posts on here where people are effectively saying their children are 100% safe. This is arrant nonsense unless you keep your kids chained to you (or hire the aforementioned Mr Bauer). The point you quoted was made in a more general context than this specific case. Yes, there are paedo's out there. Yes we should be concerned. No we cannot absolutely guarantee our childrens safety, and I include my own son in that. Do I not let him leave the house? Do I stop him from taking part in normal activities? After all, the football coach, teacher or anyone else could be a paedo. What do you do to protect your children? Can you guarantee they are safe?

It may be unpopular to say this, but the public obsession with this case is verging on the voyeuristic. None of us know how those poor people are feeling. Its fine to type away and say they fucked up and rejoice in how marvellous WE are and WE WOULD NEVER do that to our kids. You say I should be thinking of the how the kid is feeling and not how the parents are coping. You seemed to have plenty to say above about how the parents are coping. And you say "no care given at all by these parents". I work with children in care. Let me tell you, there is a world of difference between children who are truly neglected and get no care from their parents, and this case where it appears to have been one mistake. One mistake. And what a price they and her are paying. Now get off your righteous high horse. I'm sure if anyone examined your record as a parent (or mine) closely enough, they'd find mistakes. Y'see? Mistakes. Everyone makes them. Not everyone pays this price.

Fat Sparrow said...

Sassy -- Unfortunately, if it was an IQ test, they probably would have passed; the mom's a doctor. Apparently common sense was a little too common for them to be bothered with.

Fumie -- Uh oh.... That could mean I'm in for a really good award, or a massive ass-reaming. You're not going to leave me hanging for the rest of the year not knowing, I hope?

Anonym Ass -- "Speculation about what kind of parents these people are is utterly useless and boring"

Strangely enough, that didn't stop you from coming here and reading it. I guess if you don't have a life, it must be extremely satisfying to comment, anonymously of course, on someone else's blog with a comment that essentially says "Me too!" along with the rest of the people slagging me off. How very creative and intellectual.

"...and how anyone feels qualified to make comments about it without knowing any facts is down right silly."

Don't be a fuckwit, Anonym Ass. The facts are all over the news, 24/7. The facts are this: The parents left their kids alone. One of the kids was kidnapped. I dare say that we can infer from this that leaving kids alone is bad, and furthermore, we can extrapolate from that what kind of person would leave their kids alone. Fuck me, do they not teach deductive logic in school anymore?

"The reason blogging is not considered journalism by any self respecting person is because it is a form of diary keeping and for recording peoples personal opinions. Its not balanced reporting on a situation."

If you wanted the BBC, or even Fox News, God forbid, I believe you know where to find them. I never claimed to be a journalist, the story is obviously an allegory, and you are obviously some kind of utter mong if you can't tell the difference between "Fat Sparrow" and CNN.

"I wish people would remember that more often."

Yeah, me too. It would keep me from getting idiotic anonymous commenters like you who apparently think they're calling in to Nancy Grace.

"If this piece is meant to be anything other than a personal refelection on a current situation that it does stink of tabloid, there is no way that a biast emotive piece of work would ever make it anywhere further that a one in a million blog."

And yet you're still here reading it. And checking back to see if I've responded to your comments.

"As for trying to make people think.... I think you need to try a little harder."

Why? As you have pointed out, I'm not getting paid for it.

You still here, then?

Andy -- "You people banging on about it is merely pointing out the obvious and serves no real purpose."

Neither does supporting the parents, but that doesn't seem to stop the shower of cunts that has been commenting here. Did you not read my previous comment about hypocrites, or were you too busy thinking up that lame Jack Bauer comment? Twice, even. Jesus.

"You oughta be ashamed of yourself."

No, I don't think I should. Give it a few years, wait 'til the McCann's have another kid, and then you can come back and apologize to me for you being wrong.

And as for your second comment, if you're replying to Lynn, you should say that you're replying to Lynn. This isn't Lynn's blog, and I am not Lynn.

"I was referring to the posts on here where people are effectively saying their children are 100% safe."

The main "article" is a post, everything else would be comments. I know that it may be hard for you to get it right, as you seem to have either mis-read, or read in to several things here, but NO ONE on here has even remotely suggested that their kids are 100% safe, or even close to it. Quite the contrary; I would say that the majority of us know that our kids are nowhere near safe, and that's why we do everything in our power, including not leaving them alone, to try and better the odds in their favor. There are risks you take, and risks you don't. Leaving your kids alone is a risk you don't (or shouldn't) take.

"but the public obsession with this case is verging on the voyeuristic."

That's certainly not the case here. I'm an American, and it's only in the last few days that the case was even mentioned here. My story was written in response to the hypocritical reactions I'd read on several non-American blogs.

And I can very safely say that there is no way I would ever have left my kids alone.

"Mistakes. Everyone makes them."

Mistake: A wrong action attributable to bad judgment or ignorance or inattention.

There are mistakes, and then there are mistakes.... You can't put all of them on the same level. Leaving your kids alone = New Coke.... Hmmm, not quite the same, I think.

Fat Sparrow said...

Right, people, I am really sick and tired of having to slog through the same fucking points over and over and over because a good many of you apparently can't process what you're reading. Being able to read something through, with clarity, is one of the hallmarks of critical thinking and intelligence, so please bear in mind that if you're getting things wrong, it says a lot about you. READ IT THROUGH. DO NOT MAKE ASSUMPTIONS. I'm talking mainly about the comments here, but still.

Also, if you have anything to say to Lynn, go say it TO HER, ON HER BLOG. Do not assume that I agree with everything that comes out of her keyboard.

Furthermore, if you are the kind of massive infected hemorrhaging cunt that leaves anonymous comments, they had damn well better be entertaining, or I will just start deleting them. And if you don't like that, you can go get your own fucking blog, and then we'll see who comes and reads you. Your mother doesn't count, by the way.

Finally, unless you have something to say about my post, WHICH IS AN ALLEGORY, FUCKING WELL LOOK IT UP YOU GORMLESS JOEY, DON'T BOTHER COMMENTING, BECAUSE IF I HAVE TO USE CAPS ANYMORE, I WILL STOP HOLDING BACK (YES I HAVE BEEN HOLDING BACK, THIS POST WAS SWEETNESS AND FUCKING LIGHT) AND REALLY PUT UP SOME INFLAMMATORY POSTS, AND I WILL TURN OFF COMMENTS ON THEM, SO ALL OF YOU WILL HAVE TO STEW IN YOUR OWN BLOODY JUICES, SO THERE.

Of course, comments about what a brilliant writer I am will be accepted with queenly aplomb, as always.

Thank you.

Medbh said...

Take a bow, Fat Sparrow. Don't take any shit from the simpletons.
You schooled them.

Fumier said...

I meant it in the nicest possible way, FS. By the way, did I mention that I have secret fantasies about you?

Gorilla Bananas said...

Holy Shit Ms Sparrow! What a can of worms you opened up here. You're a brilliant writer and your pussy juice should be sold for $100 a bottle.

Fat Sparrow said...

Medbh -- I am certainly not the type to take shit lying down. Or standing. Or sitting. Really, I just don't take shit. Although I have taken a shit. I'm stopping myself now, honest.

Fumie -- "I meant it in the nicest possible way, FS."

Oh thank God.

"By the way, did I mention that I have secret fantasies about you?"

If these involve threesomes with my doctor, I've told you, I charge extra for that, there's a surcharge for Pay Pal, and a 2% discount for cash. Have your people call my people.

GB -- "You're a brilliant writer and your pussy juice should be sold for $100 a bottle."

Now, see, people.... That is a comment. That is how it should be done.

Thank you.

Fat Sparrow said...

Orfhlaith -- I must apologize; I can't get your comment to publish now that I have moderation off. It seems to be lost in Blogger limbo. If you still want it up, I have the text of it, so I can e-mail it to you if you want, and you can put it up then. Just e-mail me.

Ron said...

You must be Jesus under a pen name....

Fat Sparrow said...

Ron -- "You must be Jesus under a pen name...."

Don't I wish. Jesus got a book deal, the bastard.

Fumier said...

Perhaps I'd better not say any more, although I do have a sock with your name on it which can stand up by itself.

Fat Sparrow said...

Fumie -- Awwww, how sweet! Does it have button eyes and yarn hair? Those sock puppets are so cute.

I'm still puzzled on how you get it to stand up by itself, though.

Fumier said...

I could probably manage a couple of crusty eys - if you don't mind the eyes being Africa-shaped.

Fat Sparrow said...

Fumie -- "I could probably manage a couple of crusty eys - if you don't mind the eyes being Africa-shaped."

I think you should take a picture of it and show us all when your sock project is complete.